[x3d-public] [Semantics] X3D Semantic Web Working Group 14 MAR 2019: structural and conceptual semantics, semantic mapping MINUTES

[John Carlson]

I am interested in functional (behavioral) semantic info, in particular,
creating a taxonomy of motion (if not done before).   This is similar to
categorizing time based equations, surfaces, and volumes.   For example,
 walking along a path,  holding a ball, then playing catch,  sitting and
rising from a bean bag chair.
Probably many of our physics based tags apply here.   Also our Transform
attributes and recent additions to HAnim.

This goes along with my idea of a predicate based world.   One subject of
study in philosophy is “analogical predication.”

Is anyone else interested in this?   This might form the basis of an
animation package or avatar control.

In particular, I am interested in taking parallel sequences of actions and
inferring loops, conditions, exception handlers and functions/macros.
Like a multiuser development environment.  Perhaps we can resuscitate
X3D-Edit multiuser mode.

Specifically, I think we can extend MTBD to multiuser MTBD.   Think of
something like multiuser AppleScript.   I am interested in the inferencing
into programs and how this can be done in a domain specific and domain
generic fashion.  As a first test I suggest a “follow me” or tutorial
application such as dance dance revolution or guitar hero.

Yes,  there are many examples of this from robotics.   Why are we still
programming in XSLT when we could have MapForce?   How about multiuser
MapForce?

Is it appropriate to classify and organize user provided data automatically?

Then on top of that, can we classify coordinated behavior?   Is this the
holy grail of computing?   What are the skill levels we can infer for
operations, logistics, tactics and strategy?

John
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:49 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:

> [cc: x3d-public]
>
> Jakub and Thanos, thanks for proceeding with the meeting and helpful
> minutes on 14 MAR 2019.
>
> We had a bit of a mixup last week, I'm afraid... USA had already shifted
> to Standard Time.  California is now UTC-7.
>
> One hour prior to you two meeting, Christophe Mouton, Nicholas Polys and I
> had an interesting discussion about the X3D Semantic Web group's work. This
> line of thought led to sharing the SC4 STEP ontology presentation you saw.
> Apologies for missed coordination - you are always welcome to call my cell
> if there is some mismatch in expectations we might quickly resolve.
>
> On 3/15/2019 2:07 AM, Jakub Flotyński wrote:
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > below is a brief report from our yesterday's meeting. Please add your
> comments.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Jakub
> >
> >
> > 9.0. Ninth meeting of the Semantic Web Working Group
> >
> > Attendees Jakub Flotynski, Athanasios Malamos
> >
> > Web3D Teleconference Information
> > http://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information
> >
> > =================================================================
> >
> > 9.1 *Working group information*
> >
> > The X3D Semantic Web Working Group is a Web3D Consortium member-only
> group that does most of its business openly on the x3d-public mailing list.
> >
> > X3D Semantic Web Working Group Charter
> > http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d-semantic-web/charter
> >
> > X3D Semantic Web Working Group
> > http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d-semantic-web
> >
> > "The X3D Semantic Web Working Group mission is to publish models to the
> Web using X3D in order to best gain Web interoperability and enable
> intelligent 3D applications, feature-based 3D model querying, and reasoning
> over 3D scenes."
> >
> > semantics at web3D.org
> > http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/semantics_web3d.org
> >
> > =================================================================
> >
> > 9.2 Primary topic: *slideset Semantic X3D - thoughts and ideas*
> >
> > Don provided an interesting presentation on ontologies for geometry and
> topology, which was presented in Seoul. We discussed "Coordination of
> Geometry and Topology Ontology Efforts", which addresses topics interesting
> to our group. We also discussed the stack of ontologies on slide 13 in our
> main presentation:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1fCMu0V-zRAfJqFId7QIMyLh2EOCr5Qgl63MqqyFk6JM/edit?ts=5c5c6903
> >
> > Possibly, the ontology of general concepts (we discussed earlier), which
> is common to different domains, would be the mapping ontology in our
> approach. We extended the presentation with the concept of instances of the
> ontology stack (slide 14). Instances of the ontologies (T-Boxes) are
> knowledge bases (A-Boxes) representing particular 3D scenes and objects as
> well as other ontologies (T-Boxes) extending classes and properties from
> the stack. The main question (still open) is whether the instances of the
> mapping ontology should relate to a particular domain or not. Maybe, they
> should only link domain classes and properties to 3D-specific classes and
> properties (e.g., in the 3D Ontology).
> >
> > =================================================================
> >
> > 9.3 * Planning Ahead *
> >
> > We plan to meet 21 MAR when we will discuss a particular example of the
> ontology stack (e.g., classes and properties for representing furniture in
> a room) with an instance of the stack (a particular 3D furnished room).
> As you each later noted, no meeting today... I must send regrets for next
> week, will be at Stanford University taking a 3-day course on open-source
> Protege tool for Semantic Web modeling - RDF, OWL, verification, reasoning,
> etc.
>
> The suggested ontology-stack representation example looks like an
> interesting next step to pursue.
>
> I hope that over the next two weeks we can also consider how the
> EuroGraphics and Web3D conference workshops can best proceed.  Good luck
> with your important work.
>
> all the best, Don
> --
> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
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