[x3d-public] Again, RE: HAnim examples/tests
John Carlson
yottzumm at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 13:28:15 PDT 2020
Using some UNIX tools, I was able to do some checking on the model in
AnnexA: These are the names that appeared more than once in LOA-4, and the
number of times they appeared:
$ grep name AnnexA.x3dv | sed 's/^.*name/name/'|sort|uniq -c|sort
[snip]
2 name "l_eyeball"
2 name "l_femoral_lateral_epicn"
2 name "r_eyeball"
2 name "r_femoral_lateral_epicn"
3 name "l_index_proximal"
3 name "r_index_proximal"
Here are some DEFs that appear more than once:
$ grep DEF AnnexA.x3dv | sed 's/.*DEF/DEF/'|uniq -c|sort
2 DEF hanim_l_index_proximal Segment {
2 DEF hanim_r_index_proximal Segment {
There are DEFs among these that appear more than once, but have different
node types.
$ grep DEF AnnexA.x3dv | sed 's/.*DEF/DEF/' |sed 's/\(DEF [^ ]*\)
.*/\1/'|sort|uniq -c|sort
2 DEF hanim_l_eyeball
2 DEF hanim_r_eyeball
3 DEF hanim_l_index_proximal
3 DEF hanim_r_index_proximal
Recommend looking at:
2 name "l_femoral_lateral_epicn"
2 name "r_femoral_lateral_epicn"
For multiple DEFs
These DEFs may be in several PROTOs, and probably? okay? not sure.
Different LOA #'s mentioned in below snippet?
DEF JointCenters_WorldInfo Group
{
children [
WorldInfo
{
title "HANIM 200x Default Joint Centers, *LOA‑4"*
info [ "
HANIM 200x Default Joint Centers, *Level-Of-Articulation 3*
Do you want me to do the editing on github and create a pull request on github?
John
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
wrote:
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> Please See below
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> *From: *Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:01 AM
> *To: *X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>; John
> Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *[x3d-public] Again, RE: HAnim examples/tests
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> A.7.2.2 LOA‑4 Example with diamonds at Joint centres
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> https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-1/V2.0/index.html
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> www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-1/V2.0/HAnim/BodyDimensionsAndLOAs.html#LOA4ExampleSourceWithDiamonds
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> Important links and the example should run as published.
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> Thanks,
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> Joe
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> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:08 PM
> *To: *Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Cc: *X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *HAnim examples/tests
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> - Hi Joe, do you prefer email or voice chat? I am much less apt to
> call you, but it's probably good to have an initial meeting.
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> Call me with the number I sent, or use this or hanim list.
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> - I'm going to look around the X3d Resource Examples, and I know
> you've got a set of examples too. I'll look around for what I have of
> yours. I can't find it right away, but I'll look under People next. I
> found your examples in my Downloads folder. Yay! You are now in
> ~/People/Joe
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> Fun happens where you find it. I’d like to see you be able to run the
> latest loa4 example.
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> - Okay, assuming you know what you sent me, what needs to be changed
> about the various models you sent me?
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> Not sure but I’m certain it was great stuff
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> - Also, note that I am a VRML newb.
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> Youjust think you are. It is all very logical and we can use the xml or
> anything else you want as long as it runs.
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> - Do you use BS Contact? I think I have that!
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> So far most runs anywhere x3d except some may not do skin.
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> BSContact is my standard for this right now but all do it.
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> - Is there an HAnim tutorial written yet? Should I begin writing one?
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> Somewhat. The thing to start with is that there is a humanoid space, a
> skeleton space and a skin space, so far.
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> To me, they work best when they are all the same space.
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> Thanks for looking
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> Joe
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> - John
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:50 PM Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
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> > develop test cases for x3d4 or HAnim, I will do that. Thanks to Joe for
> pointing me there.
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> I can talk with you about hanim examples/tests most any time,
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> Thanks and Best,
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> Joe
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> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:23 PM
> *To: *Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu>
> *Cc: *Andreas Plesch <andreasplesch at gmail.com>; Katie Unger
> <kunger at ssdllc.biz>; X3D Graphics public mailing list
> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [x3d-public] JSweet translation of X3DJSAIL to JavaScript:
> needspecific design goals first
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> Perhaps I haven’t been clear. I see my position @ Web3d as a tester,
> thus I expect to collaborate with other stakeholders to create test cases
> or example behaviors we want the system to perform.
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> We have abundant XML that I can generate test cases from. I’m not
> generating code out of the blue. I have a goal of generating code out of
> the blue, but that’s a long term goal. This would be done to do code
> coverage.
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> I accidentally fell into a library writer position when we got to python.
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> I added my JSONParser to the browsers because no one was doing it, and I
> needed a real environment to test in.
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> I don’t see anything wrong with generating different versions of
> HelloWorld.js.
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> I resign from library development. If someone wants me to develop test
> cases for x3d4 or HAnim, I will do that. Thanks to Joe for pointing me
> there.
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> As a tester, I build code that I assert will not work, or I check the XML
> to see if the scene is supposed to fail.
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> The test cases for node are currently failing big time, I know. I know I
> use methods instead of array access. That needs to be fixed. There are
> properties in the SAI I haven’t really spotted in the X3DUOM, so perhaps I
> need to look harder. I need to add route methods to my serializer.
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> John
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:23 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Design goal: add existing X3D ecmascript SAI to HTML5 (chrome) and node.js
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> I tend to work from examples rather than specifications. Once we have our
> test cases, we can start coding the library, using “test driven
> development.” or “behavior driven development.”
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> We will build an npm environment, probably using webpack and yarn, and a
> suitable test framework. Then I will start coding tests using the test
> framework. I believe we can use phantomjs or similar to run test cases in.
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> I will look for the Transform example.
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> Good news is I’m saving enough money on “shelter in place “ to afford a
> Web3d membership.
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> John
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:44 PM Don Brutzman <brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
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> On 3/24/2020 3:48 PM, John Carlson wrote:
> > It seems like you have issues with the “generate first” approach. [...]
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> Yes. Don't do that. Don't even bother thinking about that.
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> Please look again at what I wrote. You need specific design goals first.
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> all the best, Don
> --
> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149
> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
> http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
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