[x3d-public] pull request; auto generating rendering code

[John Carlson]

We will probably drop this pull request by tomorrow.   I will delete my
repository after that and fork a new version.   I will keep 19777-6 around.

I think interested people should attend the 10am PST meeting tomorrow.
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I’ve been mulling over in my mind how to generate rendering code from
something along the lines of X3DUOM.  Alan Kay’s team did some good work on
his NSF STEPS grant, but it looks like they have another project moving
croquet to the web, croquet.io.   The rendering/game engine is called
WorldCore.

If anyone wants to work on generating rendering code, please let me know.
I will be taking the X3D/HAnim JSON to STL approach in the short term, but
I hope to get to a more formulaic/DSL/MathML approach following the STEPS.
  One might also consider the relationship of UML to OCL.

Thanks!

John

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 4:10 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> No harm done.   We can discuss changes to c/c++/c# SAI.   We need a place
> where members and invited guests can discuss such things (X3D-public)   I
> don’t know if anyone has comments, I did have some initial comments, and
> most if not all were addressed.
>
> So sure, let’s discuss c/C++/c# SAI (recent changes).   Where should
> people go for the working draft that Myeong prepared?
>
> Frankly, based on my emotional state, the less time I spend on GitHub, the
> better.   I will likely remove all traces of
> https://GitHub.com/coderextreme/X3D soon…
>
> You suggested reporting issues on GitHub at one point.  It’s difficult to
> report issues on documents only in Google drive or local disks.
>
> So I guess we’re reduced to quoting sections on X3D-public?   How do we
> know which version people are referring to?
>
> I know it’s hard to find diffs on GitHub.   I know they are there.  I
> suggest clicking on the title of a commit, if you can find the commit.   It
> looks like Microsoft made it quite difficult compared to other versions of
> GitHub.
>
> I have added the C/C++/c# Examples under …/x3d/languages on sourceforge.
> But I probably haven’t committed.  This is available to everyone.   There
> should be an Examples folder under each language.   Perhaps these examples
> can serve as a “Hello, World”?
>
> As I can’t focus/attend well enough, I will pass on further document
> review, and pass it to people who are interested in c/c++/c#.   If someone
> wants me to run some tests or develop test code, I think I can do that.   I
> would prefer remaining a QA generalist/polyglot, but I can spend some time
> converting HAnim JSON to STL and back, as converting enhances my current
> portfolio.   I would like to discuss which HAnim nodes have transforms with
> Joe, but that’s easy enough to figure out on my own as well.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 1:45 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
> brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
>
>> John:
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. I have no idea what this pull request is supposed to do.  Not
>>    finding a diff button.  What is it?
>>    2. For X3D specification changes, we are typically not accepting pull
>>    requests. Instead we use x3d-public mailing list for discussion, and Mantis
>>    for distilled comments, and X3D meetings for confirmation if needed.  When
>>    Mantis reflects that consensus is achieved, spec editors Puk and Brutzman
>>    apply the changes.
>>    3. Weekly minutes reflect these discussions and changes.
>>    4. Member and public review eventually confirms all is well.
>>    5. Web3D Consortium controls document up through SC24 acceptance of
>>    Committee Draft.
>>    6. Again run by SC24, ISO member nations vote.
>>
>>
>>
>> Process (step 2) for change recommendations remains the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> all the best, Don
>> --
>> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
>> brutzman at nps.edu
>> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
>> +1.831.656.2149
>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics
>> http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Friday, August 27, 2021 10:56 AM
>> *To: *X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>; Myeong
>> Won Lee <myeongwonlee at gmail.com>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)
>> <brutzman at nps.edu>; Nicholas Polys <npolys at vt.edu>
>> *Subject: *Pull request available on github Web3DConsortium/X3D for 19777
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to hold back changes in 2019, but I don't know how to do it.
>>
>> Pull request:
>>
>> *I would like to hold back (or merge and delete) the 19777-6 changes
>> (2019) and only create a partial pull request, but I don't know how. These
>> changes are for 19777-{3,4,5} by coderextreme · Pull Request #13 ·
>> Web3DConsortium/X3D (github.com)*
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FWeb3DConsortium%2FX3D%2Fpull%2F13&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cdda4c63e0759445540a208d96983e8d7%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637656837960805378%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=fc1BgsaSO1HoltfL2lKH6LwyCNBFIFRH5eSpEUfIAdk%3D&reserved=0>
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