[x3d-public] Semantics of X3D Work. How do these operators/verbs/actions/predicates fit into the X3D ontology?

[Christoph Valentin]

Hi John,

Sorry for my late response (it took me three years :-) ).

Today in the morning I started to analyse your input to the S&P-ARK project (the project had been started on March 24th, 2022).

Your question:
[...]Is there a concept of capturing a collaboration in a virtual world?   What file format is this?  Christoph?[...]

My answer is twofold:

1) I have tried to define the term "collaboration" in the statutes of the envisioned "Society for Lifelong Collaborating". 

[...]§ 1 Name, registered office and area of ​​activity
(1) The association bears the name "Society for computer-aided collaboration".
(2) It is based in ....... and extends its activities to the creation, testing and dissemination of fact-based knowledge about collaboration tools through passive and mediation of active advice *) as well as the necessary preparatory work.
(2a) The association defines collaboration tools as computer-aided tools and systems that enable or facilitate groups to achieve certain outcomes together. Such a group consists of at least one natural person and any additional persons. Those outcomes may include goods and/or services in the sense of economic theory, but also e.g. data collections, information or shared experiences. Achieving outcomes together requires that these groups communicate internally (via chat, email, 3D chat, video conference or similar). 
*) We understand active advice from association members as advice from personal communication, for example via chat, e-mail, 3D chat, video conference or similar, under passive advice from association members, we understand the predominantly electronic provision of information, for example on a publicly accessible WWW server, which can be picked up independently by interactive query mechanisms.[...]

2) Conclusion:
If we define the term "collaboration" this broad, then we cannot define a file format for collaboration. This would be too narrow.

Kind regards,
Christoph


Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. März 2019 um 20:01 Uhr
Von: "John Carlson" <yottzumm at gmail.com>
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Betreff: [x3d-public] Semantics of X3D Work. How do these operators/verbs/actions/predicates fit into the X3D ontology?

Predicates for Work: (Christoph, read last line of email)
 
Prototype/Design/Storyboard
Act/Perform/Operate
Build/Script/Develop
Research and Brainstorm
Prepare/Plan/Train
Direct/Desire/Specify/Select/Goal Set/Target
Strategize
Discuss/Trade/Network/Meet (related to Input/Output from previous email)
Handle/Delegate
 
I’ll call this 90’s and 00’s thinking “my work generation”
 
I’m looking for an ontology for work, in particular the top level predicates or verbs that all work verbs are a subclass of. For example, much of this came out of the military’s ontology namely:
 
Operations
Logistics
Tactics
Strategy
 
I’ll call the latter “70’s thinking.”  I was introduced to it in the late 80’s though
 
What is the process or system behind X3D? What is 10’s thinking? What is 20’s thinking? Do we dare ontologize our work?
 
If you look into the 70’s thinking, you can see why AI was focused on Scripts and Goals.   Now that we’re “agile,” what verbs do we use to describe work?  Collaborate? Is that the top level predicate? How is this reflected in computer science research on semantics?
 
Would it be useful to look at a Thesaurus?   I feel like an old geezer bringing up ancient technology.
 
If we’re creating 3D virtual worlds, why not create a virtual world we can work in?  Can I buy an office “at” Amazon? How might “buying an office” invert the work world? Can I invest in virtual offices?
 
Do we need a X3D work working group under the semantic group? “X3D in the working world”
 
What difficulties might be faced bringing our work into virtual reality or augmented reality?   What can we help with?  Or do we need to bring computers out of their fancy boxes, ala dynamicland?   What is this thing we don’t use to program, the webcam?  Here are 2 more verbs we might use in the 20’s:
 
Capture (beyond motion capture, capturing intent)
Project
 
Gamers already have this cold.
 
Where is Second Life and Open Croquet these days?   What can we learn from them to not repeat?  How do we enable 3D in work?
 
So 3 predicates, Capture, Collaborate, Project (Capture/Project is I/O).  Others?
 
What does Collaborate look like?  Is it more I/O? Is it more than just humans now?  How does a chat bot ask questions of me?
 
How do we input and output collaborations?  Git and SVN?  Can we duplicate Git’s success for other professsions?  Is anyone using git to store virtual worlds? Michaelis?
 
Is there a concept of capturing a collaboration in a virtual world?   What file format is this?  Christoph?
 
John
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