[x3d-public] animated 3D multiuser. When? How?

[John Carlson]

I think streaming network events is a good idea.   A big question is
whether we support generic and/or topic specific events.  Perhaps we could
create a Stream node, like:

<Stream topic=“nodeStream” accessType=“inputOutput” type=“SFNode” url=“
https://localhost/eventStream” />

This folds into ideas like Emitters/Collectors or pub/sub so we can emit
and collect streamed events, even geometry.   I don’t have a good way to
ROUTE streams yet.   We might need the concept of field tag for this, which
I am trying to avoid.

I’m pretty sure that this was the sort of high level networking Christoph
was talking about.

Perhaps we need a larger view of Systems than just ParticleSystems?  Doug
had a Planet tag which could be considered a particle.

How might DIS fit into this?   I don’t know if DIS can work if only port 80
and 443 are available and filtered/proxies.

How might we create Outline which is the opposite of Inline?

It seems like there are threads from many areas of X3D which could
contribute.

This requires more architectural thinking than I’m used to.   “Help, I’m
melting!”

John

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:47 PM Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Hi Christoph,
>
> I think everyone is working on x3d4, next full documentation for next
> extension and update of x3d and so maybe does not have a time for working
> on this now, even as it is so important for the future of x3d. I would
> suggest continue getting all available info on past work on network sensor
> then trying to make a date with the x3d graphics team, I think probably
> Don  is mediating, and get a time in the future to describe what you are
> doing. Or, somehow get the interest of current x3d tools. Also, making sure
> this x3d networksensor would handle any new features related to webxr and
> related.
>
> Thanks for All,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Christoph Valentin <christoph.valentin at gmx.at>
> *Sent: *Sunday, November 14, 2021 10:22 PM
> *To: *Nicholas Polys <npolys at vt.edu>; Joseph D Williams
> <joedwil at earthlink.net>; x3d-public at web3d.org
> *Cc: *Christian Schoebel <scoe at brg19.at>; Paul Müller
> <paul.mueller at gmx.at>; Roman Onic <roman.onic at kontron.com>; Markus Sonntag
> <markus.sonntag at tmo.at>; kevin.wriston at kontron.com
> *Subject: *RE: [x3d-public] animated 3D multiuser. When? How?
>
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> >>>>> Along the way web3d can help achieve meaningful agreement and
> possible advancement to standards-track.
>
> Would be great to receive official feed back at the list about my "ALP"
> proposal from last January:
> https://github.com/christoph-v/spark/tree/master/ALP
>
> Kindest regards
> Christoph
>
> --
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
> gesendet.
>
> Am 12.11.21, 22:52 schrieb Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>:
>
> When? How?
>
>
>
> and Who? Or more accurate which groups of people and products.
>
>
>
> Good question. Answered by: Who is showing these x3d scene features that
> use x3d best practices and widely accepted standards, and with at least one
> comparable independent implementation along with suitable node and field
> and event documentation? Along the way web3d can help achieve meaningful
> agreement and possible advancement to standards-track.
>
>
>
> *From: *Christoph Valentin <christoph.valentin at gmx.at>
> *Sent: *Friday, November 12, 2021 12:44 AM
> *To: *Nicholas Polys <npolys at vt.edu>
> *Cc: *Efi Lakka <efilakka at gmail.com>; Christian Schoebel <scoe at brg19.at>; X3D
> Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>; Paul Müller
> <paul.mueller at gmx.at>; Roman Onic <roman.onic at kontron.com>; Terry
> Norbraten <tdnorbra at nps.edu>; Markus Sonntag <markus.sonntag at tmo.at>; Kevin
> Wriston <kevin.wriston at kontron.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [x3d-public] animated 3D multiuser. When? How?
>
>
>
> >>>>> Happy to hear if anyone thinks it worth carrying forward
>
>
>
> Might be that you are personally happy, but obviously the work is not
> appreciated by the rest of the community.
>
>
>
> And many people underestimate the efforts that are inherent to a CVE.
>
>
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