[x3d-public] HAnim Schematron output sampled

[John Carlson]

I will proceed with generating models for these diagrams once i have some
spare time.

John

https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-1/V2.0/Architecture/concepts.html#Hierarchy1

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 2:32 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I could not find a problem with Schema for the parent/child relationships
> in other LOAs besides LOA4.  Someone who isn’t on their phone should take a
> look.
>
> I’m way too stressed out right now, hopefully this will calm down a bit.
>
> What i can do is run the other standards based hierarchies, …LOA3 through
> the schematron when i get a chance, to verify any other problems with
> schematron.
>
> I understand that there may be diagnostics for other LOAs before LOA4.
>
> I’m beginning to understand how difficult standards development is.
>
> John
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> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 2:16 PM Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
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>> Just more comment where the three * items are messages from schema
>> processing.
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>> ‘Correct’ means according to loa3 and loa4 diagrams.
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>>    - vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac
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>> The schema shows sacro as parent to vl5 and l_ and r_hips.
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>> Correct is root parents sacro and vl5; sacro parents l_ and r_hips.
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>>    - l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
>>    - r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
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>> The schema shows vc7 as parent to vc6 and r_ and l_sterno.
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>> Correct is vt1 parents vc7 and r_ and l_sterno.
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>> Much to discuss regarding some existing examples.
>>
>> Joe
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>> *From: *Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM
>> *To: *Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; John Carlson
>> <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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>> Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes
>> yet…. Clarity his critical.
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>> Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:
>>
>>    - suspect joint or segment name,
>>    - the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and
>>    - the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.
>>
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>> If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections
>> available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on
>> it together.  Onward…
>>
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>> v/r Don
>>
>> *From:* Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM
>> *To:* John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
>> brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org
>> >
>> *Subject:* RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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>> NPS WARNING: *external sender* verify before acting.
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>> Hi,
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>> The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos
>> and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong.
>>
>> The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and
>> loa4.
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>>    - Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.
>>     X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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>> No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.
>>
>> The diagrams are correct.
>>
>> Joe
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>> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM
>> *To: *Joe D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; Don Brutzman
>> <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list
>> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
>>
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>> vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5
>> is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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>> l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
>> confirm.
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>> r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
>> confirm.
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