[x3d-public] HAnim Schematron output sampled

[John Carlson]

I could not find a problem with Schema for the parent/child relationships
in other LOAs besides LOA4.  Someone who isn’t on their phone should take a
look.

I’m way too stressed out right now, hopefully this will calm down a bit.

What i can do is run the other standards based hierarchies, …LOA3 through
the schematron when i get a chance, to verify any other problems with
schematron.

I understand that there may be diagnostics for other LOAs before LOA4.

I’m beginning to understand how difficult standards development is.

John

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 2:16 PM Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Just more comment where the three * items are messages from schema
> processing.
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> ‘Correct’ means according to loa3 and loa4 diagrams.
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>    - vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac
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> The schema shows sacro as parent to vl5 and l_ and r_hips.
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> Correct is root parents sacro and vl5; sacro parents l_ and r_hips.
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>    - l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
>    - r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
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> The schema shows vc7 as parent to vc6 and r_ and l_sterno.
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> Correct is vt1 parents vc7 and r_ and l_sterno.
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> Much to discuss regarding some existing examples.
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> Joe
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> *From: *Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM
> *To: *Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; John Carlson
> <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet….
> Clarity his critical.
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> Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:
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>    - suspect joint or segment name,
>    - the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and
>    - the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.
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> If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections
> available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on
> it together.  Onward…
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> v/r Don
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> *From:* Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM
> *To:* John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
> brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject:* RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> NPS WARNING: *external sender* verify before acting.
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> Hi,
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> The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and
> vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong.
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> The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and
> loa4.
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>    - Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.
>     X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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> No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.
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> The diagrams are correct.
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> Joe
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> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM
> *To: *Joe D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; Don Brutzman
> <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list
> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5 is
> a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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> l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
> confirm.
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> r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
> confirm.
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