[x3d-public] HAnim Schematron output sampled + table and comment

[John Carlson]

I am in agreement with what Joe said.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 3:14 PM Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Thanks John, fine work.
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> The table shows schema problems relative to the loa3 and loa4 diagrams
> when processing a model that is correct according to diagrams.
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> I am just adding my comments to this.
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> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:53 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Joint
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> Incorrect parent/correct sibling
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> correct parent
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> vl5
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> sacroiliac
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> humanoid_root
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> l_sternoclavicular
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> vc7 (LOA4), vc4 (LOA2--have only checked hierarchy diagram, may be correct
> in schema)
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> vt1
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> r|_sternoclavicular
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> vc7 (LOA4), vc4 (LOA2--have only checked hierarchy diagram, may be correct
> in schema)
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> vt1
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> Just more comment where the three * items below are messages from schema
> processing.
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> ‘Correct’ means according to loa3 and loa4 diagrams.
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>    - vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac
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> The schema shows sacro as parent to vl5 and l_ and r_hips.
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> Correct is root parents sacro and vl5; sacro parents l_ and r_hips.
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>    - l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
>    - r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
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> The schema shows vc7 as parent to vc6 and r_ and l_sterno.
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> Correct is vt1 parents vc7 and r_ and l_sterno.
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> Much to discuss regarding some existing examples.
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> Joe
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> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2023 12:07 PM
> *To: *Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics
> public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>; Joe D Williams
> <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> Table fixed (had extra l):
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nCid9PQCADgsTFzZOWUwKd_tNgn3yEMT17CwF0SnhA/edit?usp=sharing
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> Let's try to work on this document for clarity, and share link to group.
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> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:53 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Joint
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> Incorrect parent/correct sibling
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> correct parent
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> vl5
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> sacroiliac
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> humanoid_root
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> l_sternoclavicular
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> vc7 (LOA4), vc4 (LOA2--have only checked hierarchy diagram, may be correct
> in schema)
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> vt1
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> r|_sternoclavicular
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> vc7 (LOA4), vc4 (LOA2--have only checked hierarchy diagram, may be correct
> in schema)
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> vt1
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> LOA2 hierarchy diagram has a different sibling, but the right parent for
> the latter two. Since I am not based on schema, schematron or X3DUOM, I
> don't have to accommodate this.
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> I am doing LOA4.
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> LOA4 and LOA2 pictures included, highlighting areas where there was
> confusion.
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> Please read back your understanding.
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> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 12:09 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
> brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
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> Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet….
> Clarity his critical.
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> Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:
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>    - suspect joint or segment name,
>    - the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and
>    - the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.
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> If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections
> available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on
> it together.  Onward…
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> v/r Don
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> *From:* Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM
> *To:* John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
> brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject:* RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> Hi,
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> The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and
> vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong.
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> The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and
> loa4.
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>    - Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.
>     X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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> No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.
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> The diagrams are correct.
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> Joe
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> *From: *John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM
> *To: *Joe D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>; Don Brutzman
> <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list
> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> *Subject: *Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
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> vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5 is
> a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!
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> l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
> confirm.
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> r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please
> confirm.
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