[x3d-public] X3D minutes, Friday 1 APR 2022: glTF X3D4 video, mantis issues, PointProperties markerType

John Carlson yottzumm at gmail.com
Sun Apr 3 20:19:46 PDT 2022


I can’t currently address these issues in X3D JSON Schema as I have a
kidney stone.   Maybe in a few days.  Recent ER visit did not show issues
in urine.

John

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:06 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <
brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:

> Attendees: Anita Havele, Dick Puk, Don Brutzman.  Regrets Nicholas Polys.
>
>
>
>    1. Great Webinar presentation by Michalis Kamburelis available on
>    YouTube.  Essential viewing.
>
>
>
>    - *Physically Based Rendering (PBR) in #X3D4 using #glTF*
>    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ0s1V37tAw
>    - https://www.web3d.org/pbr-x3d4-using-gltf
>    -
>    https://github.com/michaliskambi/x3d-tests/wiki/2022-Talk-About-X3D-PBR-glTF
>
>
>
> Thanks to Anita and Nicholas for many behind-the-scenes efforts to make
> these webinars work.  More on the way!  8)
>
>
>
>    1. Dick and I continued tackling Mantis issues to address editorial
>    comments (over many years) that can improve the X3D4 specification.  We
>    addressed 12 issues this past week.
>
>
>    - Web3D Consortium Mantis Issue Tracker
>    - https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php
>
>
>
>    1. We uncovered a major issue with PointProperties when connecting the
>    ISO Registry of Graphical Items – no field was provided for markerType!  So
>    this functionality was intended but apparently overlooked, surprisingly.
>
>
>
> Now added to X3D XML Schema, DTD, X3D Unified Object Model (X3DUOM),
> x3d.py package, X3D Ontology and X3D Tooltips, everything checks OK.
>
>
>
> Details follow.  Request close review by authors and implementers.
> Supporting different glyphs as markers for points (and point clouds) seems
> like a potentially powerful visualization and communication capability.
> Example models welcome.
>
>
>
>    1. First excerpt that follows is from mantis.
>
>
>
>    - Mantis 1393: 12.4.7 PointProperties missing markertype field
>    - https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1393
>
>
>
> *Description*
>
> 12.4.7 PointProperties missing markertype field, matching our approach for
> other International Registry for Graphical Items
>
> Ensure consistent reference to [REG]
>
> Also need to shift down Support Levels table, inserting new Table 12.4
> Marker types
>
> Add corresponding schema, DTD, tooltip entries
>
> Remove editorial comment for Mantis 1252
>
>
>
> Proposed field signature:
>
>   SFInt32 [in,out] markerType 1 [0,infinity)
>
> Likely need similar prose from hatchStyle:
>
> "If a markerType that is not supported is requested, markerType 1 shall be
> used."
>
> Discussed whether a corresponding boolean field was appropriate. For
> FillProperties and for LineProperties, there is always a a default styling
> of rendering the information. For points, there needs to be some value
> applied or else no point is visible. Overall visibility is already
> controlled by the parent Shape node. Therefore no corresponding boolean
> field is appropriate for markerType.
>
>
>
>
>
>    1. Here are guiding standards documents on markerType.
>
>
>    - ISO/IEC 9973 International Register of Graphical Items
>    - https://www.iso.org/jtc1/sc24/register
>
>
>
>    - Marker type
>    -
>    https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/-8916524/8916549/8916590/6208440/class_pages/markertype.html
>
>
>
>    - Example: Plus sign (identifier 2)
>    -
>    https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/-8916524/8916549/8916590/6208440/diagrams/mar002.html
>
>
>
>
>
>    1. Here is proposed modification to X3D4.
>
>
>
>    - X3D4 Architecture, Shape component, 12.4.7 PointProperties
>    -
>    https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-CD1/Part01/components/shape.html#PointProperties
>
> 12.4.7 PointProperties
>
> PointProperties : X3DAppearanceChildNode {
>
>   SFVec3f  [in,out] attenuation           1 0 0 [0,∞)
>
>   SFInt32  [in,out] markerType            1     [0,∞)
>
>   SFNode   [in,out] metadata              NULL  [X3DMetadataObject]
>
>   SFFloat  [in,out] pointSizeMaxValue     1     [0,∞)
>
>   SFFloat  [in,out] pointSizeMinValue     1     [0,∞)
>
>   SFFloat  [in,out] pointSizeScaleFactor  1     [1,∞)
>
> }
>
> The PointProperties node specifies additional properties to be applied to
> all point geometry. The colour of the line is specified by the
> associated Material node or X3DColorNode color values. […]
>
> The *markerType* field selects a marker type pattern as defined in the
> International Register of Graphical Items (see [REG]
> <https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-CD1/Part01/references.html#REG>).
> If a *markerType* value that is not supported is requested, *markerType*
>  value 1 shall be used. Table 12.4
> <https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3Dv4Draft/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-CD1/Part01/components/shape.html#t-markerTypes> specifies
> the first 26 marker types as defined in the markerType Section of the
> International Register of Items
> <https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/-8916524/8916549/8916590/6208440/class_pages/markertype.html>.
> Examples of each marker type are available at the International Register of
> Items.
>
> *Table 12.4 — International register of items markerTypes*
>
> 1
>
> Dot
>
> 2
>
> Plus sign
>
> 3
>
> Asterisk
>
> 4
>
> Circle
>
> 5
>
> Diagonal cross
>
> 6
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, one okta of cloud
>
> 7
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, two oktas of cloud
>
> 8
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, three oktas of cloud
>
> 9
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, four oktas of cloud
>
> 10
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, five oktas of cloud
>
> 11
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, six oktas of cloud
>
> 12
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, seven oktas of cloud
>
> 13
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, eight oktas of cloud
>
> 14
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, sky obscured
>
> 15
>
> Meteorological Station Circle, sky not observed
>
> 16
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, no cloud
>
> 17
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, one okta of cloud
>
> 18
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, two oktas of cloud
>
> 19
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, three oktas of cloud
>
> 20
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, four oktas of cloud
>
> 21
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, five oktas of cloud
>
> 22
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, six oktas of cloud
>
> 23
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, seven oktas of cloud
>
> 24
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, eight oktas of cloud
>
> 25
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, sky obscured
>
> 26
>
> Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, sky not observed
>
> *pointSizeScaleFactor* is a value determining the nominal point size
> before modification by the sizing modifications, as determined by the
> *pointSizeMinValue*, *pointSizeMaxValue*, and *attenuation* values
> discussed below. The nominal rendered point size is a browser-dependent
> minimum renderable point size.
>
> *pointSizeMinValue* is minimum allowed scaling factor on nominal browser
> point scaling. *pointSizeMaxValue* is maximum allowed scaling factor on
> nominal browser point scaling. The provided value for *pointSizeMinValue* must
> be less than or equal to value for *pointSizeMaxValue*.
>
> When a X3DTextureNode is defined in the same Appearance instance as
> PointProperties node, the points of a PointSet shall be displayed as point
> sprites using the given texture(s).
>
> TODO reference/bibliography International register of items for markerType.
>
>    1. Here is the added tooltip, for online author reference and also
>    integration by tools (Python, Java, Turtle).
>
>
>
>    - X3D Tooltips PointProperties markertype
>    -
>    https://www.web3d.org/x3d/tooltips/X3dTooltips.html#PointProperties.markerType
>
>
>
> *markerType*
> <https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/X3dTooltips.html#PointProperties.markerType>
>
> *[markerType accessType inputOutput
> <https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/X3dTooltips.html#accessType>, type
> SFInt32 <https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/X3dTooltips.html#SFInt32> CDATA
> <https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/X3dTooltips.html#CDATA> "1"]*
> markerType selects a marker display type for points from ISO/IEC 9973
> International Register of Graphical Items. 1=Dot , 2=Plus sign, 3=Asterisk,
> 4=Circle, 5=Diagonal cross, 6=Meteorological Station Circle, one okta of
> cloud, 7=Meteorological Station Circle, two oktas of cloud,
> 8=Meteorological Station Circle, three oktas of cloud, 9=Meteorological
> Station Circle, four oktas of cloud, 10=Meteorological Station Circle, five
> oktas of cloud, 11=Meteorological Station Circle, six oktas of cloud,
> 12=Meteorological Station Circle, seven oktas of cloud, 13=Meteorological
> Station Circle, eigth oktas of cloud, 14=Meteorological Station Circle, sky
> obscured, 15=Meteorological Station Circle, sky not observed,
> 16=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, no cloud, 17=Meteorological
> Automatic Station Circle, one okta of cloud, 18=Meteorological Automatic
> Station Circle, two oktas of cloud, 19=Meteorological Automatic Station
> Circle, three oktas of cloud, 20=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle,
> four oktas of cloud, 21=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, five oktas
> of cloud, 22=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, six oktas of cloud,
> 23=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, seven oktas of cloud,
> 24=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, eight oktas of cloud,
> 25=Meteorological Automatic Station Circle, sky obscured, 26=Meteorological
> Automatic Station Circle, sky not observed,
> *Hint:* an ockta is one eighth of the total area of the celestial dome;
> used as a measure of cloudiness (one okta means that one eighth of the sky
> is obscured, two oktas that one quarter is obscured, and so on).
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/okta
> *Hint:* detailed descriptions of markerType values are found at the
> SO/IEC 9973 International Register of Graphical Items
> https://www.iso.org/jtc1/sc24/register at
> https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/-8916524/8916549/8916590/6208440/class_pages/markertype.html
>
>
>
>    1. Additional support products.
>
>
>
>    - X3D XML Schema documentation
>    -
>    https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSchemaDocumentation4.0/x3d-4.0.html#Link1B4
>
>
>
>    - X3D XML DOCTYPE documentation
>    -
>    https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dDoctypeDocumentation4.0.html#PointProperties
>
>
>
>    1. Also figured out how to add the full list of these numeric
>    enumerations in XML Schema and X3DUOM as named simple type,
>    *markerTypeChoices.*  Similarly created lists for
>    *hatchStyleTypeChoices* and *lineTypeChoices*.  Implements OK in
>    Turtle, Python and Java.
>
>
>
>    - FillProperties *hatchStyleTypeChoices*
>
>
> https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSchemaDocumentation4.0/x3d-4.0.html#LinkB6
>
>    - LineProperties           *lineTypeChoices*
>
>
> https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSchemaDocumentation4.0/x3d-4.0.html#LinkD7
>
>    - PointProperties  *markerTypeChoices*
>
>
> https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSchemaDocumentation4.0/x3d-4.0.html#LinkD7
>
>
>
> So, routine and time-consuming editorial tasks suddenly become
> fundamentally valuable.  To me (at least) the cumulative and coherent
> presentation capabilities of X3D4 models (with glTF, HTML5, Web Audio)
> offer significant expressive power.
>
>
>
> Once again: close review is requested of this addition to PointProperties
> of markerType.
>
>
>
> As ever, all discussion is welcome. Have fun with X3D!   8)
>
>
>
> all the best, Don
>
> --
>
> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
> brutzman at nps.edu
>
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> +1.831.656.2149
>
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>
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