[x3d-public] HAnim Schematron output sampled

[Joseph D Williams]

➢ Look at Joe file to see how skin is done (attach to sites?)

Look at the Joint nodes.
skinCoordIndex names the vertices controlled by this Joint,
skinCoordWeight gives the weight given to the vertex animation relative to Joint rotation. 
O means the vertex is not affected by Joint rotation. 
1 means move the vertex directly as the Joint rotates. 
Movement depends upon radius from joint center to vertex. to   
Between 0 and 1 is proportional. 
Joe

From: John Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:26 PM
To: Joe D Williams; X3D Graphics public mailing list
Subject: Fwd: HAnim Schematron output sampled

Next steps.

John 
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From: John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
To: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>

 Next steps for LOA4 HAnim model:  try moving around the output of found* measurements in the *sed.sh scripts 

Regenerate skeleton one more time and display for proofing skeleton in view3dscene, collect and fix issues.

Figure out the measurements left to populate.

Report missing measurements.   See if output model changed.

Look at Joe file to see how skin is done (attach to sites?)

Probably I’ll begin work in a couple of hours.

At some point, figure out transformations  that are excessive and try to recompute measurements below the transforms, take out transforms that have been nullified.



John
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 9:02 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
Thanks for discussion Joe, really helpful.  We definitely have had some mixed signals here.
 
Summary of changes we applied to HAnim schema relationships:
a. Joint vl5 has parent humanoid_root
b. Joint l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1
c. Joint r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1
 
I will work on updating these corrections into all the tools accordingly – X3DUOM, X3D Schematron, X3DJSAIL Java, X3DPSAIL Python, and X3D-Edit..
 
Thanks too for fixing multiple models together.
 
Awesome work, sincere thanks, take care.
 
all the best, Don
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From: Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net> 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:53 AM
To: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>; John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>
Cc: X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
Subject: RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled
 
• vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac  
• l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7
• r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7 
 
Don, these three items serve as a summary when processing a model that is correct according to the diagram. 
Much to discuss regarding some existing examples. 
Joe
 
 
 
From: Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:09 AM
To: Joseph D Williams; John Carlson
Cc: X3D Graphics public mailing list
Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
 
Sounds like progress, but not quite focused enough to make any fixes yet…. Clarity his critical. 
 
Hopefully you guys can create a simple list consisting of simple triplets:
• suspect joint or segment name, 
• the incorrect parent described in the X3D XML schema,, and 
• the correct parent shown by the diagrams in the specifications.
 
If there is such a simple list of a few names/errors/corrections available, I hope to have some time Monday or Tuesday afternoon to work on it together.  Onward…
 
v/r Don

From: Joseph D Williams <joedwil at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:07:06 PM
To: John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com>; Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu>; X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
Subject: RE: HAnim Schematron output sampled 
 
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Hi, 
The expected ones are not correct.  Vl5 is a child of root and sternos and vc7 are childs of vt1. The schematron claims are wrong. 
The schematron is wrong according to the Concepts 4 diagrams for loa3 and loa4. 
 
• Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!
 
No, vl5 is a child of root. Schematron is wrong.
The diagrams are correct. 
Joe
 
From: John Carlson
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:46 PM
To: Joe D Williams; Don Brutzman; X3D Graphics public mailing list
Subject: Re: HAnim Schematron output sampled
 
 
 

vl5 has parent humanoid_root rather than expected sacroiliac.  Yes, vl5 is a child of sacroiliac, according to Joe.   X3DUOM/schematron wins!
l_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please confirm.
r_sternoclavicular has parent vt1 rather than expected vc7.  Please confirm. 
 
 
 
 
 

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